IMO, some people on this earth just shouldn't be given large amounts of money. I heard on FOX this morning that a couple in FL paid $155k to have their dearly-beloved, but dead, dog cloned. I find this so alarming! I remember feeling equally alarmed years ago when Texas A&M cloned a cat, named Copy Cat. (Well, okay, I think the name is cute...) My oldest son graduated from A&M with an Animal Science degree. I was talking to him about CC (no relation!!) and how it worried me that eventually someone will think that cloning humans is a good idea. He said, "Don't worry, Mama. No matter what they say, there won't be any cloning of humans. Copy Cat isn't as strong and doesn't have the natural resistance of a regular cat." So, I'm thinking, excellent news. But after hearing the news story this morning, I googled ol' CC and came up with the following article from Dec. 13, 2006:
Copy Cat: First Cloned Cat Produces 3 Kittens
COLLEGE STATION - CC, the world's first cloned cat, may not have nine lives, but she has produced three kittens whose lives already are unique.
CC, short for Copy Cat, was born on Dec. 22, 2001, and became the first-ever cloned cat by a team of Texas A&M University researchers in the College of Veterinary Medicine & Biomedical Sciences. She has since lived with Duane Kraemer, a veterinary medicine professor who helped clone her, and his wife Shirley in nearby Bryan.
The couple, cat fanciers all of their lives, successfully mated CC with Smokey, like CC a tabby but with different markings. The three kittens were born almost exactly three months ago. Although not the first cloned cat to have a litter of kittens, CC is believed to be the first in Texas to give birth. Of her three kittens, two bear a very similar resemblance to her while the third is identical to the gray color of Smokey, the dad.
"CC has always been a perfectly normal cat and her kittens are just that way, too," Duane Kraemer says. "We purchased Smokey for the specific purpose of mating him with CC. We've been mothering their health and all of them are fine, just like CC has been for the past five years."
"CC was always a very playful kitten and her babies have a similar type of personality," Shirley Kraemer adds. "They are as cute as kittens can be, just healthy and normal cats. We'll never part with them. They will always remain with us or other family members."
Texas A&M has cloned more species than any institution in the world. Since 1999 researchers have cloned cattle, swine, goats, horses, a deer and a cat.
Hmmmm.... Any opinions on this?
Dress for Less
I'm against cloning too.
1On one hand I see the medical milestones cloning can bring but on another hand it's playing God and a bit like opening a Pandora's box.
Even if you cloned a human being, it would be like an identical twin, but without the shared experience. Any discussion I would have about cloning and God would be had on my only blog site set to discuss this topic.
2I really dont understand the cloning of pets thing.
first- there are so many animals out there that need to be adopted. to spend that amount of money for one pet is criminal and evil
Second- You should love your pets...you shouldnt loooooooove your pets, anyone who is that attached to an animal, so much so that when it dies, you MUST have ANOTHER that LOOKS just like it, you need therapy STAT
Third- Even if you are sane, which i will argue against , and have an animal cloned, you really didnt love the first one because cloning is in fact all about you and not the animal.
3Yep, yep and yep.
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"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
When my son's blue heeler died unexpectedly, he said he didn't want another dog beause it wouldn't be like Scrub (he is a rancher and rodeos, so this dog was not only like family, but his right-hand sidekick). I told him he was right, but when the time is right, he will get another dog, and this dog will be awesome in his own right. His personality, everything.
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"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
ccpdm, Border Collies are about the smartest breed of dog around. Suggest to your son, he might try that breed, if he does not want to have another blue heeler.
6The cloning of animals is only a precursor to the cloning of humans, don't you think?
7Interestingly enough they were talking about cloned beef and a person's right to know if the beef they are eating was cloned or made the original way. Somehow, the radio host started talking about cloned humans. Shockingly enough to me, he stated that of course the cloned human would have a soul. I'm not buying that but might be convinced otherwise as my only reason for saying no way is that I just don't see how you would clone a soul. What are your thoughts on that?
oH nO, I have had border collies, and although they are SUPER SMART. most neurotic dog on the planet. The one we had, Star, herded cats, bugs, water, me, my doves i raised, He wore holes in the ground by pacing back and forth, he barked and barked and barked.....at nothing.
I recommend a standard Poodle, wierd I know, but great farm dogs.
8The ones I saw were working dogs in Ireland, I guess they were as happy ( and tired) as their master just to sit down by the fire, in the evening.
9GP, he loves the blue heelers - they are cattle dogs. That dog used to amaze me...!
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I mean, he's a rancher, so that dog was essential to him in his work, as well as his best bud.
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"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
Sorry, I should have read all your comments at once and replied in one, but...
lazy, that is exactly what I'm saying. It has to be a precursor to human cloning. I happen to believe, however, that only God can instill a soul in a being.
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12"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
If we could clone only organs I would be fine with that but I do not think the world can handle 2 of me.
13There are so many ethical questions with it. Do you breed people for spare parts?
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"Enjoy life, it's ungrateful not to." - Ronald Reagan
Guess, I think the whole cloning thing is morally wrong. Science can do it but shouldn't.
14"If we could clone only organs I would be fine with that."
I agree, but only because I'm being selfish.
I want a do over on my intestine
situation. Well, when they were healthy. Wait, I'll take the clone of the large intestine of a family member.
15They are already cloning parts for humans on animals.
16Well, maybe in my lifetime I could get some new things. Then again, maybe that's just kinda creepy.
17ears on mice i am talking lungs, hearts, laura's new intestines.
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You have to start somewhere. How many years after the first successful heart transplant did we have to wait before they could do a lung or liver?
19Okay you have my ear and my heart
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Sam, I hope one of these daays we can keep an eye out for you as well.
21"They are already cloning parts for humans on animals."
How in the world???? I take Armour thyroid for low thyroid that is derived from pigs thyroid. I find it interesting that pigs' thyroids and heart valves are compatible with humans (and some more than others, in my book.... ha!). :oink:
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22"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
Hypothyroid? Me too - I take synthroid though I hear Armour is great.
They grow the part on the animal - ear on back of mouse or rat - it is weird looking and a bit gross.
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My wife has had her thyroid shut down as well. She takes synthroid, I am pretty sure. She also has to go to the gym during the week, she alternates with aerobic type exercises, and light weights to prevent osteoporosis, bone density is a big issue with Hashimoto's disease. She is an outstanding cook, best I have ever know, and I say it sincerely and not to brag. Yet she is confined to "lean cuisine" in an attempt to limit weight gain.
24but she treats herself every now and then, yes?
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Yes she does, according to her too often. I have made it a point to never comment on weight. She works damn hard to keep in check.
26Cloning strikes a bad cord with me. Seems to be walking a very fine line.
27I wonder since males have both an x and y gene, whether some day it would be possible for a man to clone a female version of himself?
28Okay too weird. Would that female be attracted to men or women? Yeah, too weird.
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It certainly would give a whole new meaning to that slang expression "Go f**k yourself".
30"They grow the part on the animal - ear on back of mouse or rat - it is weird looking and a bit gross."
sam, I cannot tolerate rodents. Snakes, yes. Rodents, no way. This just totally creeps me out. Oh, yes, hypothyroid. Now darn it, why couldn't we be HYPERthyroid and have to eat everything in sight to gain weight?!?
GP,
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31"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
I was - then normalized and now slow
at least it still works.
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