by Christian Toto
10/07/09
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33858
The Koran, the holiest book of the Islamic faith, often comes up when the subject turns to terrorism.
But does the public, or even our highest elected officials, for that matter, understand what’s in the text itself? And, more importantly, any connections between radical Islam and the Koran?The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran by Robert Spencer helps decode and decipher the holy text in a way that’s both illuminating and hard to ignore.
The newest Guide is as complicated as its subject matter, but Spencer methodically addresses the source material’s many facets while drawing key contemporary comparisons.The Koran remains open to endless debate, but Spencer tries to find the most respectable scholars to weigh in when murkier parts of the text doesn’t provide solid answers. Spencer freely admits when some interpretations are muddier than others, but stands firm on areas where there's little wiggle room.The truth behind some passages depends strongly on who is doing the translating, since Arabic to English translations can be imperfect at best. The author brings in a multitude of voices in some such cases to offer a more comprehensive assessment.Spencer begins, appropriately enough, with the reasons why western minds need to know what’s in the Koran, even if they have little interest in spiritual matters.“ … many Muslims themselves find calls to warfare in the Koran. And this group of ‘misunderstanders’ is not as insignificant as Western analysts contend,” he writes.Radicals routinely quote from the Koran and Spencer shows why. The text offers plenty of calls to action against nonbelievers.Getting to know the book, he argues, is a matter of “self protection.”
The Complete Infidel’s Guide explores the creation of the Koran, how the Prophet Muhammad received the information that would comprise the holy book from Gabriel slowly over 23 years. The text is said to be unchanged for centuries, but Spencer reveals how modest modifications occurred over time. It all often depends on who you ask, and what the passage in question means for modern-day Muslims understandably eager to defend their faith.
“A passage mandating death by stoning as the penalty for adultery was originally part of the Koran but was later omitted,” he writes as just one example.The holy text also shares similarities with Jewish Scriptures. People ranging from Noah to Moses “figure prominently throughout the Koran,” he says, although not always exactly in the manner presented elsewhere.Perhaps the most important chapter concerns the titular infidels -- and what the Koran thinks of them.
“Most Muslim commentators believe that the Jews are those who have earned Allah’s wrath and the Christians are those who have gone astray,” he writes. And while eternal damnation awaits the infidels, their suffering doesn’t begin and end with the afterlife, he writes.“As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help,” he quotes the Koran (3:56).
But it’s the Jews who feel the brunt of the radical Islamist’s ire, and Spencer breaks down some reasons why.The Koran repeatedly states Jews are prophet killers -- without proof. The passages in which a group of Jews are transformed into apes and pigs is used by some to cast all Jews in such animalistic fashion.
The Koran’s conflicting words come into sharp focus when dealing with women’s rights. The text often speaks to equality and progressive stances regarding women, but other times the holy book includes less tolerant instructions. Consider phrases like, “men are a degree above them,” regarding women, and how a good wife “obeys when instructed.” Politicians often speak of Islam as a religion of peace, even moments after the latest terrorist bomb has just been detonated. Their words are meant to defuse situations and not blame the millions of decent, peaceful Muslims for the actions of their radicalized peers. The Koran speaks of nonviolence as well, but it also tells followers to take defensive actions against nonbelievers. “The mere presence of unbelief constitutes sufficient aggression to commence hostilities,” he writes.
Failing to understand the Koran, and how many terrorists envision its text, leads to “careless statements” and “policy errors,” he says. That’s a recipe for disaster.“The willful blindness of western leaders threatens us all,” he writes.The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran tries to correct those mistakes and set the record straight without overtly demonizing those who seek solace in Islam.
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If you want to read a good book about Islam, the history of Islam and how the Koran was actually written, read No god but God by Reza Aslan.
1Also, the non-believers that so many people THINK includes Christians and Jews, has only been used to include them in recent times, and then only by certain sects of Islam. Muslims, by and large, understand that "the people of the book" have their own revelations and are to be left alone.
The Koran clearly states that "there is to be no compulsion in religion".
2Politicians often speak of Islam as a religion of peace, even moments after the latest terrorist bomb has just been detonated.
So the religion is at fault for what extremists do? It is the way people interpret the scriptures that is at fault, not the scriptures themselves.
3While it is true that there is no compulsion in religion, according to the Qur'an, the penalty for leaving or in any way denigrating Islam is death. Thus this review hits on what I find to be important issues for the westerner to understand: we have no idea the trouble we are in if this is used in an even marginally correct way.
4I have not yet read this book, but I think that the review accounts everything fairly. I think Spencer's book would make a fine addition to my library.
I have several friends who have left Islam - several became Christians and one became a Hindu. I have yet to see anyone threaten them in any way. Their families treat them the same as they always have as well as all our other Muslim friends.
The Bible puts forth death by stoning for a woman who isn't a virgin on her wedding night. How is that different?
5I don't know any people who have a contract on them either, but I have been interested enough in Rifqa Bary to pay attention lately. For any who are interested,Pamela Geller was just talking about Rifqa Bary on a radio program.
In further news, "The Obama web site is hosting a page dedicated to Mohamed Elmougy, who in front of the Dallas Morning News Editorial board, openly supported honor killings specifically in discussion of Amina and Sarah Said."
"Mohamed Elmougy, a prominent North Texas Muslim community leader and Egyptian immigrant, defended violence, even deadly violence, against women and homosexuals. Though the term "honor killing" did not come up in either discussion, Mr. Elmougy explained that violence against sexual outlaws is acceptable to defend the family and the social order."
"The way we view it, we don't look at it as violent," he said. "We look at it as a deterrent."
That's close enough to me to affect my attitude, quite frankly.
6I have a real problem with someone supporting honor killings here in America. Killing another person is against the law, period.
Martini, true the Bible states death by stoning for a woman that wasn't a vigin on her wedding night, but I am not aware of any Christian sect in America today that lives by such a code.
7I know many conservative christians who believe that it is permissible to kill homosexuals and doctors who perform abortions, and claim to base their belief on Biblical scripture. Again, what is the difference?
I don't know anyone who would condone honor killings anywhere, no matter what their belief. Honor killings are also not based on any scripture. It is a widespread practice by Muslims, Christians and Animists throughout N.Africa, the Middle East and SE Asia. It is a societal/cultural construct. People who bring these ideas with them to the US need to be better integrated into our society and it needs to be made clear to them that this is completely unacceptable.
To completely make Islam and all Muslims the modern boogy-man is so counterproductive to addressing the real issues. Many clerics and Muslims speak out against this.
8I think the issue is as much a cultural issue as a religious one. In many cultures religion defines the culture...and others it compliments.
Americans are simply so diverse that I have deemed them "the generic american" as many in our culture have vastly different "sections" of life which are separate from their base religion...and each seems to hold its place....together yet separate.
Many religious people view that as a permissible means of picking and choosing which parts of your religion to practice while moving through your life is a more comfortable place....as a sinner.
Therein lies the rub. Strict culture and religious beliefs do not leave so much wiggle room for "comfort in sin" and draw stark lines between sin/belief and non belief.
It is a "either-or" rather than our "generic american" view that is more convenient. It would be easy to see how an extremist view based on a strict religious/culture becomes inflamatory.
9I have numerous friends of many faiths and I myself are among the "multi-faith" genre...meaning I believe many things...found in many religions. I do not think ONE has all the anwsers as I see them all having tremendous insight in different areas.
Does that make me perhaps the most permissable sinner? I would like to think it makes me one who still looks for answers.
My Muslim friends here in America are so torn. They see many of their beliefs being misinterpreted and twisted, by not just "Westerners" but also "Extremists" who claim to be under the orders of their belief.
I compare it to some of the cults we have seen in Christian sects who have gone to the extreme side. We quit serving Kool-Aid at church because of them. Did the Kool-Aid mean we agreed with them? Nope---but we didn't want to be compared to them either. It was painful to see someone twist our beloved scriptures into something which resulted in death.
Many Muslims feel this way as well. They cannot pull themselves from their religion as it is who they are, nor can they control extremists who twist and contort scriptures to their own goals. By refusing the extremist view they also put themselves at risk. As American Muslims they are targets from both sides.
10I don't know any Christians, conservative or otherwiase, who condone killing abortion doctors or homosexuals. Killing is wrong. I do know many Christians who support the death penalty and I know to some people that seems contrary to religious beliefs.
I've been a Christian all my life and I am not aware of any sect that does honor killings. Which sects are the ones that condone it?
11"To completely make Islam and all Muslims the modern boogy-man is so counterproductive to addressing the real issues. "
For what it's worth, I don't believe that all Muslims are extremists or boogy-men. I do have concerns with the signs of Sharia law being introduced into other countries legal systems. (Look at Europe for examples.) It seems that Sharia law is one of the big drivers for things like honor killings and treating women like property. I may have that totally wrong, so if I do, please let me know.
12"To completely make Islam and all Muslims the modern boogy-man is so counterproductive to addressing the real issues. "
No one but the Muslim community did this. No one puts a rock in their hands, no one forces them to kill their daughters, no forces them to strap explosives mixed with metal balls and blow themselves up in a house of worship, on on a bus or in a bar. No forces them to beat their wives or rape them. No forces them to burn an occupied church down, kill priest and nuns, stab the pope. No one forces them to attack people because they are different. No one has forced them to be intolerant of others to the point of punishing those who speak of or practice another religion.
And no one is forcing them to not speak out against it. To take their violence & hate spewing imams from their pulpit. No forces them to allow this evil to be perpetrated in the name of their supposed G-d but them. they have made themselves the world's Boogy man.
13skb - the church my friend's sister belongs to condones the killing of abortion doctors and the minister has actively said (from the pulpit!) that killing homosexuals is ok because the bible condemns it. I don't know what denomination it is though, I can find out if you want me to.
There was a case in Australia several years ago of a Christian girl from Jordan who was the victim of a family honor killing. I will try to find the link. Christians throughout N.Africa and the Middle East participate in this practice, as do Animists for that matter. It has existed long before Islam, or Christianity.
I think anyone in their right mind would be concerned about Sharia law being instituted anywhere. Many Muslims come to the west to escape repressive regimes that use Sharia.
Sam, the Muslim community is fighting against the extremists in their midst, too. Just because someone claims to be doing something "in the name of Islam" doesn't mean that they speak for all Muslims. Blaming all Muslims for what extremists say and do is akin to people blaming all Jews for the actions of Israel and targeting them to protest the situation between Israel and Palestine. It doesn't make sense.
14Right now every hot spot involves Islam. Every act of terrorism is committed by a Muslim. All countries they have moved to are having real problems with them. No one told them NOT to assimilate. No one told them to sue magazines or writers or cartoonists or to declare a fatwa on them. Even a man who supposedly spoke for moderates beheaded his wife.
You want to live in a Western nation then adapt or get out. Do not start suing schools or governments for prayer rooms, foot baths, single sex gyms and pools.
And start turning in those you hear speak of bombs, the destruction of transportation or the death of infidels.
15You want to live in a Western nation then adapt or get out. Do not start suing schools or governments for prayer rooms, foot baths, single sex gyms and pools.
Anyone is free to file a lawsuit, it doesn't mean they will win. Just because a segment of the Muslim population asks for these things, doesn't mean that we are required to bow down to them and do it. People of all beliefs ask for all kinds of things "to accomodate" them, not just Muslims.
I agree that people should adapt when they move to any nation. If I was going to move to Saudi Arabia, I would have to wear the veil, or suffer the consequences. People who break the law here also suffer the consequences of doing so. I don't see anyone walking away from an honor killing here scot-free.
16Would western law enforcement see it as an "honor" killing or just plain murder?
Several HK's in Canada have yet to be convicted let alone prosecuted.
17I see this as evidence that ANY religion can be pulled to an extreme. This is why I say that none of them have ALL the answers...but each have redeeming insights.
Every holy book I have read has scriptures regarding ethnic cleansing, stoning for crimes, and other forms of punishment that in this day and age is viewed as extreme. During that time in history when these texts were constructed, this was law of the land and base culture.
Over time society has evolved and found different ways to deal with issues once felt to be crimes that warranted death. The problem lies in those who take those same scriptures now as pertinent to this time period and use those guidelines literally.
18One thing I'd often point out is that every holy book was written by a man. They were "inspired" or "led" to write what is now deemed holy. If this were to occur today we'd call them journals,a diary or even blogs.
I say this because while reading every holy text that I have, I see the faint mark of "man" within the words. There is emotion, passion, comfort and despair...mixed in with judgements and defining rules which are obviously masculine at the core.
With this in mind, many of us read our bibles and when we see the words EX: "fishers of men" we assume they are referring to "men" as all that is human, not discarding women in that thought process.
The above article demonstrates how the attitude of the author of the Koran revealed different attitudes about women within his text. There are portions where he upheld women and another when he suppressed women.
That is basically what one would expect in a journal, diary or blog today. We have good days and bad days....we have had times in our lives when our anger at the opposite sex consumed us and other times when we could not get enough of them.
There are examples of this in the Bible as well. Songs of Solomon is a passionate book in the bible about desires and passion a man had for the woman in his life. It is also a book in the bible that few read. Many have a hard time reconciling base human needs and desires with that which we consider holy.
It is found in every "Holy" text I have read.
When passion in religion is pulled to the extreme it is then twisted and perverted....and made into what interpretation best fits those who would use it as a tool.
19The original point of this article was to suggest what I believe to be a fair-minded assessment about a book concerning Islam, one which I think most people in the West should read. It sounds like an honest interpretation, although I have yet to read it. It admits what are more troublesome passages and attempts to interpret them with a variety of scholarship.
20When we are talking about the Qur'an, we are not talking in most cases about interpretation or aberration: we are speaking of direct quotes ...and lest anyone object, in context. There is no misinterpretation of how it explains Jews were turned into monkeys and other scandalous slurs. No interpretation more than what is said is required, except of course to object.
People in the West need a wake-up call as to what many (but not all) Muslims are using... and why they can lie to your face and then carry out their mission of hatred against the Jews and Western society in general.
The case with Rifqa Bary is an important one concerning what appears to be a mild mannered Muslim family living in the United States. This is a girl who ran away from home because she converted to Christianity. The infuriating thing is that some people don't understand the truth: there is a woman writing for the Orlando Sentinel who has said all of this has been blown out of proportion and the girl has been brainwashed by well-meaning but mistaken Christians.
This woman wants the girl returned to her parents. She is very, very mistaken on these points... and I find that many people are also mistaken about such things: I have little doubt that Bary would be in grave physical danger if she were returned to her parents, unless she converted back to Islam. Unfortunately the only way in which one can prove that for sure is to return her and see.
Still there is a mountain of evidence to support this claim that they will kill her. Most of us have trouble processing that, just like we didn't with the Said sisters whose father killed them both and then left the country. Want to know what some Muslim websites say about them? According to the comments, they were another couple of girls who wanted to act like wh*res. In other words, they deserved to be killed.
Excuse me while I offer my most strenuous friggin' objection to this mindset! It's about time we start seeing the problem for what it is. Benazir Bhutto wrote a book in which she talked about how the Qur'an suggested treating women with respect and as equals in society. She lovingly explained how the hope of these interpretations could bring peace between Islam and the West. They killed her for saying that!!! They want to do the same things to any other woman who "gets uppity."
I still suggest everyone read this book. I'm not blaming everyone who is a Muslim, but I am past the point where I am giving anyone the benefit of the doubt where lives and liberty are concerned. I am not believing what you say, but what you do when you think no one is watching. I invite you to do the same with me if you like. If you say I am being in any way unfair, I'll meet you at Temple Mount to discuss the issue.
To return her would mean death or worse. Her folk belong to a radical mosque in Ohio.
21I suppose the bottom line is that extreme demands extreme measures. Those who do not support the extremist beliefs should have no problem standing up to them but it seems they'd rather hide and let others do that for them.
I will freely admit that if a plane was debarked and searched if there was a questionable passenger the small annoyance would be far better than the loss of lives if they don't.
If someone is given a "cavity" search based on their religion....and they happen to be part of one that currently is threatening Americans or allies...I would have to say that is a small uncomfortable experience compared to burying family and friends.
While some would call that religious or racial "profiling" I would have to say that we'd be expected to go through that or even more if they were thinking we were a threat on their land.
Death is always senseless and should be accounted for. Those who cannot protect themselves count on us to do it for them....and I am wrestling with that fact. I don't think it is "our" job necessarily. I will always say America first...the rest second.
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