USA-ECONOMY/GDP (SNAP ANALYSIS):SNAP ANALYSIS-Will Q3 U.S. GDP be as good as it gets?
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* Sustainability questions loom large as stimulus fades
* Big question marks hang over housing market
By Emily Kaiser
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - It didn't take long for pessimism to creep back in following Thursday's surprisingly strong reading on U.S. economic growth
Gross domestic product grew at a 3.5 percent annual rate, beating the consensus forecast for a 3.3 percent pace. But two of the biggest contributors -- spending on durable goods and residential investment -- received substantial boosts from Washington's emergency rescue efforts.
"Sure, the economy's standing up on its own legs again, but for how long once the government stimulus starts to fade?" said Chris Rupkey, an economist with Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi in New York. "That's the million dollar question for the nation's unemployed -- all 15.1 million of them sitting idle, through no fault of their own."
What gives Rupkey and some other economists pause is that a large portion of the jump in consumption can be traced back to the government's "cash for clunkers" program that provided incentives to buy new cars.
Excluding motor vehicles, third-quarter GDP advanced at a more modest 1.9 percent pace. To be sure, that was a vast improvement, following four consecutive quarters of declining GDP, but it was dangerously close to stalling.
The turnaround in residential investment, which added to GDP for the first time since 2005, was also a bright spot, although it remains to be seen how much of that improvement was linked to government efforts to prop up the housing market.
Congress is debating whether to extend an $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers, which has been credited with helping to boost home sales.
Arguably the biggest lift to the housing market has come from the government's support of mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae ( FNM - news - people ) and Freddie Mac ( FRE - news - people ), and the Federal Reserve's $1.45 trillion program to buy mortgage-related assets -- which have helped keep mortgage rates down.
The Obama administration has pledged to come up with a plan for the future of Fannie and Freddie by early 2010, and the Fed's asset purchase program is due to be phased out at the end of March. That leaves a huge question mark hanging over the housing market going into 2010.
The surprisingly strong GDP growth also poses tricky questions for the Fed, which holds a policy-setting meeting next week.
As the economy stabilizes, there will be growing pressure on the Fed to reverse emergency lending programs and begin to normalize interest rates, which are now near zero.
However, Wells Fargo ( WFC - news - people ) chief economist John Silvia said lingering doubts about the recovery's sustainability mean the Fed will stay on the sidelines.
"Core issue: how much of this is sustainable without Fed programs?" he said. "We estimated 2.4 percent (GDP growth) for 2010."
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It is beyond pessimism...it is an emergency.
While our legislators toil away on bills which will essentially give us poor healthcare for big bucks...our economy is evaporating.
Our president boldly stomps his pompous ego around, strutting like a peacock, having party after ridiculous party at the White House...and writing checks for some of the most insane projects submitted for government funding.
At what point will our president and our legislators realize that the party is over? It is time to get down and do the dirty work---making the unpopular decisions.
What unpopular decisions? Simple things that would make drastic changes like:
Changing the laws regarding the limitations of state borders for insurance companies so they would become more competitive instead of bloated commodities maintaining monopolies.
or
Setting limitations in tort law with regard to malpractice lawsuits....restricting attorney's from chasing and creating more costly litigation.
Or
Forming our own rules within America....similar to Europe's "Hire within FIRST and others LAST" as well as make it more appealing to companies to keep jobs HERE with incentives and tax cuts...even funding specifically to create jobs.
or
Automatically giving anyone on unemployment funding for college based on their grades--not on income or assets. My family has assets, we are considered out of the realm for any gov't funding for higher learning----but that asset is our home....haven't enough people lost homes? Encourage skill building----we must remain competitive as a nation not only in technology but also intellectually.
Offer....tax incentives...pay back for volunteering in exchange for education...foster knowledge bases and grow them.
AND...a tiny thing which would be a HUGE impact: Stop paying anyone in prison SSI or disability benefits. They already get free healthcare, food, and a place to stay.
1You have a man in the White House who is a left wing ideologue who has not learned that Chicago style politics will not work on a national level. That is what will bring him down, unless like Clinton, he remakes himself after 2010.
2I don't think he can remake himself. He would have to admit he wasn't doing everything right in the first place for him to be able to do that.
It's funny how Washington is saying the recession is over when we've only seen a few signs of life.
3skb, one of my friends and I were saying exactly what you are - we keep hearing that the recession is over, but aren't seeing any signs of it here.
In fact, my husband's office just laid off another round of workers not too long ago. The economy is
(still) in terrible shape!
4Sorry to hear about layoffs at your hubby's work Martini. I hope they don't have to layoff any more people.
I think this holiday season is really going to show if people believe we are in recovery or not. Personally, I don't think you will see people out there spending very much which is going to mean that some retail businesses are not going to get into the black this year.
5Seeing RED is taking on new meaning.
6You can't spin success to people out of work.
7Yep...I am not "buying" that idea that this "stimulus" accomplished anything reasonably tangible.
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