The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding immigrants from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state.

Your title says ILLEGALS, but this just says immigrants. There is a huge difference between legal and illegal immigrants, IMO.

The fact is that it includes all illegals Martini in that exclusion as to immigrant status. The census questionnaire is a lot more then just a head count it has a slew of demographic questions in it. I gather you have never filled one out before. Most of the folks on Sugar will probably be filling one out for the first time.

There is a huge difference between being a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant. If someone has fulfilled the legal obligations that allow them to be in this nation, they desrve to be counted in a census.

That being said, I would have no idea how you would get the illegal immigrants to say that they were illegal on a government form.

If they are a legal immigrant, they are appropriately counted. The census is also a demographic of of the U.S. There is no reason to exclude the question in this census other then to give cover to the illegals, who by the way should also be counted, but not for representation purposes. Martini go up to the library and look at the last census data, and you will see what i mean

Yeah I agree with Martini. There's a huge difference from being a legal permanent resident and an illegal immigrant. And technically if you are a permanent resident you are not a citizen. This seems a little wonky, maybe it wasn't reported correctly?

The category selections which they use for documentation in the census has changed dramatically over the many years it has been done. There was a time when there was a selection for only white and nonwhite. The form has undergone many changes.

The challege will be getting illegals to actually report their data. Seriously consider whether they will actually answer their front door, give them the real count as to how many live there and how many are actual citizens or have legal documentation. It is not realistic.

There is a distinction between immigrants and illegals. Immigrants are outnumbered probably 50 to 1. (my very conservative guess)

I believe they will not be answering their door and if they do they will of course not be able to communicate as they often refuse to learn our language.

We will have to look at other data to get an "educated guess" such as how many take part in gov't programs, are born with parents who are illegal, and how many go to their nearest consulate for an ID to use while here.

All I need is the number that acknowledge that they are immigrants, you total them up by district, then subtract the registered immigrants in that same area, and you have a minimum on the # of illegals in that geographic area.